Summary

Cal Kestis ' journey to restore peace to the galaxy cover withStar Wars Jedi : Survivor . The subsequence to the 2019 hit game finds Kestis build up a team including old and new friends , namely Merrin , Greez , Cere , and single Father-God Rebel Bode , as they look for a new home to reconstruct the Jedi Order outside of the Empire ’s reach .

During his pursuance , Cal comes across Dagan Gera , a Jedi from the High Republic earned run average who ’s been kept in a bacta army tank for over 200 years on the distant planet Koboh . Initially await to enlist him in his seeking , Cal learns of Dagan ’s turn of events to the black side due to his obsession with the planet Tanalorr , having been imprisoned in the bacta army tank by fellow Jedi Santari Khri after she cut off his branch to prevent him from acquiring a machine to progress to it . Dagan later on becomes a central antagonist inJedi : Survivor ’s story , perpetually taunting Cal ’s failures as a Jedi and holding on to the past times .

While Jedi : Fallen Order was an amazing game , its sequel Jedi : Survivor , has managed to make some monumental improvements that make it frankly better .

Cal from Jedi: Survivor centered in front of the cover schemes from Fallen Order and Survivor in the background.

In laurels of the game ’s nominations at The Game Awards 2023,Screen Rantinterviewed Lead Writer Danny Homan and Senior Writer Pete Stewart to discussStar Wars Jedi : Survivor , Dagan ’s emotional story , the parallel between him and Cal , and fleshing out the High Republic ’s canyon .

Danny Homan & Pete Stewart TalkStar Wars Jedi: Survivor’s Dagan

Screen blah : I adoredJedi : Survivor , I sunk in well over 60 hour from the 2d I got the plot , and I ’ve just been rant about it ever since . Diving intoDagan Gera ’s level , he is such a fascinating character , and I love that it ties into the High Republic , something that does n’t get explored very often . Can you walk me through the origination of this graphic symbol ?

Danny Homan : Yeah , Dagan is an interesting enhancer for Cal . I think one of the things that the team was really worked up about , in terms of search the High Republic , is that it was n’t that explored in canonical Star Wars . So , we have this good opportunity to aid worldbuild what the Jedi Order was long ago , and to have Cal reflect on what the Jedi used to be , and through Dagan Gera , find a character who maybe could have become a use model for Cal had not circumstance intervene . So , just playing the relationship between the two of them was a really rewarding experience for us .

Pete Stewart : Yeah , I think before even Dagan as a eccentric survive , we know what we wanted was a reflection of the dark-skinned track Cal could go down if Tanalorr became the same affair to Cal as it did to Dagan . The High Republic things slot in really , really neatly , and added to other themes , like Danny was saying . It ’s like , " Put Cal in a place where through psychometrika and through walk through ruins and stuff , he can have the aura day of the Jedi , " right ? It ’s the thing that he did n’t get to see , even when he was in the Order , they were a fading power . So , we put Cal in a really uncomfortable situation and prove him what he could become , and it ’s hopefully like a mirror for him as he pass through the game .

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Danny Homan : Just adding to that , the Santari Khri - Dagan kinship is such an interesting mirror to Cal and Merrin . They ’re always grappling with their own personal aspiration , how you support someone that you ’re cheeseparing to , and there ’s patently a lot of complicated emotions up in there .

That reminds me a luck ofCere and Cal ’s kinship inFallen Order . You mentioned there not being much canonic storytelling for the High Republic , and I did actually want to touch on that . With the EU , there ’s so much lore there that can be explore . How did you go about finding the right way to blend some of that High Republic lore while still fleshing out the globe and stay true to Dagan ’s account ?

Pete Stewart : I intend one of the beauties of the High Republic is it having been 200 geezerhood before before Cal came to Koboh is that you ’re dealing with a really interesting affair of like , " What does space look like after something has happened to it , " ripe ? So , the High Republic is everywhere on Koboh , but the moonshine is broken because of the emergence , and Koboh is completely terraformed from what it used to be , because of these thing that happened during the High Republic , but we ’re seeing people move in , and ramp up on top of these ruins , and forgetting about history , and that was really fascinating from a world construction spot of view .

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Like the way Greez reacts to hearing the set phrase Tanalorr , " Oh , it ’s mystical . It ’s a Treasure Planet , no one ’s ever been there . " It ’s a bit different in Star Wars in the fashion we recall about story , because we know , 200 days ago , we have quite detailed poppycock , it feel like we ’re walking over a dark old age . And that ’s just really , really fascinating in the same manner that the beginning of the sequel trilogy , you see Rey take the air through the shells of AT - ATs and Star Destroyers , and we ’re like , " Oh , nerveless , this time is numb , but hoi polloi still live the outer space that occupy . "

Danny Homan : So much of Star Wars is the myths and tradition that bewilder with us , and how they inform our present and our present battle . So , while Cal might have take up that the High Republic was a gold years where nothing went wrong , and the Jedi were always truthful . As you know , over the line of the events in Survivor , through psychometry , he occur to learn that every Jedi front their struggle against the dark side , even the legendary Dagan Gera .

With Dagan ’s ambitions in his pursuit of Tanalorr , how did you go about deciding when that villainous round would come in ? How did you go about discover the correct Libra of introduce players to this character , and then still making him somewhat of a openhearted villain ?

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Danny Homan : Yeah , it ’s a with child question . For report weight and purpose , Cal expose Tanalorr and then complicate that , within relatively shortsighted order , finger correct , because as we have a go at it from Cal and his journeys , when something honorable comes around , there ’s always something spoiled on the horizon , too . That ’s just the times that he lives in , these disconsolate times of the Galax urceolata . On the other side , we wanted to check that that Dagan was n’t a static eccentric whose fixation on Tanalorr stay just the same throughout .

As you get to the end , and you present Dagan for the final time , there ’s that moment where he see to Cal , he ’s got the Stormtrooper helmet , he ’s like , " You flunk . You are not a Jedi , you pale in comparison to the Jedi of my day . " That ’s such an important history moment for Cal , because so much of his character is about reconcile the itinerary , continue the traditions of the Jedi , so for a fabled Jedi to seem at him and say , " This was on your spotter , " it ’s such an emotionally heart - sprain experience for Cal .

Pete Stewart : I think there was a time — it ’s still there — in the story where Dagan has fully fall before you find him in the bacta tank , reddish saber and everything , and clearly he ’s descending by the sentence he gets put into bacta . But it became really powerful for us , not just for the ocular level of it , and the wow cistron , but him bleeding the crystal in front of you and making that pick justly there , and then in the present twenty-four hours , he learn everything Cal has to say , " The Jedi are go , the Empire is here , it ’s just us , " and he still decides to go all in on the matter . That just speaks to his fixation , speaks to how far he has fallen , and then also we get to see a really radical scene where he bleeds his lightsaber there , which had n’t been see before , so it ’s just really nerveless .

Dagan sensing Cal in Force echo in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

It feels like there ’s almost no external audio , and it ’s just the vocalization actors come through . I ’m curious if that was the intent . Was the music purposely leave out to give these part their spotlight , especially someone like Dagan ?

Danny Homan : This is such an vivid moment , this confrontation between two Jedi from different periods of time , that I imagine the music can drop out so that you could hear every chip of delivery , because there ’s so much subtext and so much pain in each of these confrontation between Cal and Dagan . So , I think it ’s just a raw part of the process where you step back and go like , " Oh , we call for everyone to focus on every individual delicious word , because this is a confrontation worth hearing . "

Pete Stewart : I think there ’s also some really coolheaded things go on between Dagan and Cal , both in the first time they come across and the last time they gather . Like him bleed the vitreous silica is such an audio moment , drawing all of the air out of a elbow room before it bursts out again . And at the end , he mesmerise Cal , he get off him into a trance country , and you involve to palpate the uncanny upside - down - ness of the sound in that moment , as well . So , I call back we ’re just playing with the creature we had to produce this sideways experience for the player .

Angry Dagan Gera in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Given that you have mo - cap actors doing a fortune of this production , how practical were some of these fight between Cal and Dagan , particularly the one at the end where they go upside down and Dagan is just casually walk around on the roof while Cal is trying to get his footing ?

Danny Homan : Yeah , our actor do a mint of the P - pileus , even veering into some of the stunt and things . Cameron Monaghan is not only a really studied player , but he ’s really astute on these kinds of sequence too , so he ’s very involved . Whenever you could have the actor body forth not only just the dialog in the setting , but the high action as well , and to really put that character into the experience , I consider that ’s when you get really electrically charged moment like this one .

Pete Stewart : Yeah , I think when Cal is cabbage by his pegleg up and befuddle into the roof , it ’s probably an animation to make that . [ Laughs ] But , there ’s some really cool moments , like when you first contend Dagan and , at the end , there ’s a episode in the cinematic where his saber goes up into the air , and Cal is up in the air and Dagan jumps up really in high spirits , grabs it and then total back down again . That ’s a strong-arm stunt that was done on the microscope stage . Probably not by William Frederick Cody , because that ’s an intense level of athleticism , but yeah , a muckle of those really coolheaded acrobatic moment are strong-arm stunts that we then transpose . But , when unearthly stuff and nonsense happens , it ’s more than likely the energiser have some fun in the sequenator .

Dagan bleeding the crystal and Cal trying to stop him in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Danny Homan : And we do a mountain of action Mo - capping at the end of our days of bent . So , the worker are still there , and still getting to see that too , so we get laid whether they ’re involve in it or not . They ’re internalizing the drama , and the action , and staring intensity of those instant , and they ’re kind of using that to inform their performance .

In the first fighting with Dagan , if I hark back aright , you get his wellness bar midway down , and thenRayvis shows upand interrupts . How do you go about determining , from the writers ' perspective , when exactly a competitiveness like that should be broken up with something story - driven ?

Danny Homan : Yeah , that ’s another great enquiry . We ’ll give you our perspective , but we can also give our design manager , Jason , a prospect to kind of further explain that , because really , the solvent is story and design body of work hand - in - hand to make these clashes feel really give - an- take and to kind of carry both the story and also the gameplay together . Sometimes , you have a brush , so that the boss can switch to a different kind of maneuver or add new tools to their arsenal , so there ’s a practical side of that , as well . But then , of class , these are quite vivid battles , so there ’s kind of a sense , sometimes , to give the player a moment to kind of regroup and consider what they have to do next .

Dagan Gera and Rayvis in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Pete Stewart : There ’s a sense of progression to them , as well , because like you say , you only get halfway through his first wellness bar on the first fighting before the chronological sequence terminate . I opine when you fight on the Lucrehulk , you get it down to maybe a third or a quarter , or mayhap a chip lower , but you ’ll find like you ’re progressing . And then finally , in the last one , you get it to zero and that ’s when he dies . So , I like that sense of you ’re push through each time to get better at nearly make headway the fighting . But , I think it works on the narrative and gameplay level when , visually , you do n’t get a health bar to zero , and you ’re like , " Ah , I ’ve been pipped to it , I ’ve been scramble , " like someone ’s [ outdo ] me , and it ’s Rayvis in this case .

It ’s such a fun twist to suddenly be like , " Wait , no , I was almost done with you ! "

Pete Stewart : " I have n’t fetch up yet ! " Yeah . [ Laughs ]

Cal and Dagan fighting in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Dagan and Rayvis is such an interesting dynamic , and a lot of Dagan ’s backstory is give away through Force visions , but then a lot of it is left strange . How much actual backstory did you guy write for this character reference , and how much of that actually made it into the game versus just hold on in your head as a Bible ?

Danny Homan : That ’s another large inquiry . To spell a well - assail case , or two character who , like you say , they have a relationship that goes back century of year and there ’s a heap off - concealment , there ’s a lot implied , but in our room , we decidedly blab out through the sense of how they met , the circumstances . And like you said , we get bit and pieces of that in replication , but if you look at a aspect , like when Rayvis and Dagan are talking in the Lucrehulk that Cal take in , you’re able to show between the line and make out that their relationship go back , and there ’s a lot of pain in the neck and joyousness in it as well . Rayvis is n’t indisputable what his next move is going to be . Dagan obviously values Rayvis maybe more than he has valued other people in his life history . There ’s a real camaraderie there , that ’s not just about a exponent family relationship .

Pete Stewart : Yeah , I bed that when he says , " I take our oath fulfilled , " and then Dagan gets as close as he can to being like , " Oh , no , do n’t . Do n’t go , buddy . " [ Laughs ]

Santari Khri and injured Dagan Gera in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Danny Homan : " Whoa , whoa , whoa , not so fast , we have history . " [ Chuckles ]

Pete Stewart : " I ’ll have to suppose of another idea to keep you around . " But yeah , I think it varies depending on the character and their utility in the story , but most of the time , I cogitate there will be more information that we jazz that wo n’t be reveal in the game . Not that it ’s not all-important information , clearly , otherwise it would be in the biz . But like , we have our timeline , for example , where we know when characters were born , and where they were born , and not every small-arm of entropy needs to be put into the plot . But , when you translate how the tabular array is set , where to go to get sure pieces of nutrient and drinking , that ’s how we set about that kind of clobber .

Do you have a favored bit of information in regard to Dagan that did n’t make its way into the biz ?

Cal letting Dagan out of the bacta tank in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Pete Stewart : I ’m gon na keep my sassing shut . [ Laughs ] Unless you have something , Danny ?

Danny Homan : For me , it ’s less about what did or did n’t make the game , but where it makes it in the plot . Because there ’s often , in how we work out in our elbow room and our revision process , we might have info that ’s in a cinematic , and then as we go through alteration , and kind of get things ready for a shooting script , we see that we have to take something away . But , the economic value of being a video secret plan and not linear media , like TV or film , is we often have other places to put that stuff , so that all that juicy info that we could n’t possibly get into a cinematic becomes persona of an sound reflection , or parts of the databank . That ’s part of the joy is that . There ’s oodles of different ways to order narrative in games , and I think character backstories and histories is one of those thing that we get to impart on the player if they essay that out .

I ’m not usually one to read all that extra information , butI did withJedi : Survivor , because I was so hooked with these characters . One thing I always come up interesting about boss struggle is the epigram that bosses will often throw at the thespian , and sometimes it can sense out of context in the middle of a conflict . How do you two go up that with Dagan for these three larger-than-life , emotional , climactic fights ?

Stormtrooper helmet at Cal’s feet in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Pete Stewart : You ’re right , it ’s a difficult needle to thread writing , like Buck VO . But basically , we seem at each fight , because Dagan has three battle , and he has three category of vocalism line for each . So , I do n’t conceive there ’s any lap between them , or if there is , there ’s just very few . The tone of each one is mapped to the tone of the combat , so the first one , it ’s a little chip disorientated , but he ’s still with it , and he ’s kind of figured out his purpose again . 2nd one comes on the back of the cinematic in Lucrehulk , where he ’s clear his intent , he tries to ruin Zee after you think he ’s gon na reprogram her .

And then , he can see his visual sense is re - illuminate into something else that becomes the novel dream , and he talks about a unexampled war to Rayvis . And at the end , he ’s a chip broken , because he ’s just visualize Santari Khri , who just 200 years ago leave alone him , like where he ’s just been broken up with over a video call , right-hand ? [ Chuckles ] And he ’s pretty upset , but he ’s so faithful to his goal , so he ’s a little bit savage , almost , so we just draw close it like that .

So we have the tone , and then we just get writing , and then the sly part is , " How often do they fire ? How many descent we desire for each family ? " like this . It ’s fiddly , you go back , and you tweak , and you tweak and tweak , and he ’d eventually still have to state me to stop doing that , because I ’ll do it always . But , it ’s just a longsighted process , and we normally start it before the honcho fighting really exists in any word form in the plot , and then adjust as the boss phase starts to take shape , and we work with combat pattern to get to a final merchandise .

Cal finding Dagan in bacta tank in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

I wanted to explore Khri and Dagan ’s relationship . Jedi typically are reckon as just comrades , there ’s not typically any kind of romantic affair there , but there felt like something deeper between them in comparison to say someone like Cere and Cal . Was it ever in your minds , or how you regard their family relationship within the fib ?

Danny Homan : I think it ’s fair to say that Dagan and Khri share a meaning relationship . Not needs romanticistic , but just in that they are both ambitious , they both have vision , they ’re both sort of leadership in their respective crafts , whether it ’s exploration or science , and they share a dream together . As Merrin sound out in Survivor , that ’s a ambition that they feel like could only come to fruition if they lick together . And you see in one of our psychometric flashbacks that Dagan had a moment where Khri palpate like her project is work to be pulled from her , Dagan pace forward and says , like , " I ’ll take the risk . "

And part of it ’s out of egotism , but I guess part of it is out of genuine compassionateness and understanding Khri has her own ambitions . And I think that is a mirror to Cal and Merrin , and to a quite a little of relationships in Survivor , and this kind of theme of how those closest to you could lease you down , but also build you up . It ’s never one or the other . Khri has to face Dagan , because she senses that he ’s go too far , and she ’s endeavor to help bring him back towards the scant side even then . But , of course , by then he ’s a bit too deplete by his own ego and his own drive for Tanalorr to hear her dustup .

Dagan and Rayvis in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Pete Stewart : Yeah , Dagan is clearly drawn to the people that share his imagination , so he ’s drawn to Rayvis after vote out him , and he ’s eviscerate to Khri because they ’re both scientists look for out what the next affair is . And then , like Danny say , a difference takes place when Khri keeps her cool , even if she is perhaps call out some of the flaw in the Jedi Order ’s logic , she ’s like , " Well , them ’s the formula , and I ’m not go to be the person that lead against the Council . " Whereas Dagan is like , " I ’ve pass away over the edge . " [ Chuckles ] That ’s where it changes , but he is absorb to the people , and forms a really strong James Bond with Khri , because they both share this passion and this dreaming . But the split occurs where she stays true to what she think in and Dagan loses himself .

It is a pretty heartbreaking decision when that split happens , and she has to take his subdivision . Since we ’re talk about mirroring characters , Cal choose quite a beating in that final fight against Dagan . Losing weapon system is a jolly coarse thing in theStar Warsuniverse , I ’m queer if there was ever a thought to really have that pass off to Cal by Dagan ?

Danny Homan : brusk answer , I do n’t recognise . That ’s a in force question . I ’m not sure if that was ever something considered . I imagine the opportunity we saw in that last clangour was more that marvelous period where Dagan has declared,“Hey , not only do I need Tanalorr for my own egotism and my own drive , but I ’m break down to use it to do what you should have done , which is to in the end construct an U. S. Army and take the competitiveness to the Empire . " That picture is , I recall , rich , because Cal hears Dagan ’s Holy Writ , and the wound to Cal is an emotional injury . " Maybe he ’s right , peradventure I should have fought hard . Maybe I need to use Tanalorr for more . " And , of course , that ’s one of the Apocalypse that causes the final kind of friction percentage point between he and Bode .

Santari trying to calm Dagan in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Pete Stewart : Well , I also would n’t want Cal to be stealing Greez ’s roaring . He ’s rocking the alloy arm now , and I conceive Greez has just gotten used to it , you know ? I do n’t call back either . I do n’t believe I recall a prison term where we considered a dismemberment for Cal . So , yeah , that ’s my knowledge .

I ’m curious how much you guys really ferment with Cody to find this character , and if he fetch anything to it that perchance you did n’t already see from the author ’s position ?

Danny Homan : We work hand - in - hand with our actors , they get other draft of the scripts , we do tabular array read , we get notes . And then , during our performance - capture shoots , where they ’re kind of work with the doer as they rehearse , to concluding transcription . Really every step of the way , I believe our performances in Survivor were so potent , because there ’s just a really open , positively charged collaborative relationship between us and our match , where they ca n’t return the carrying out we want until they really realize the core thing that characters are going through .

Bode flying and shooting at Dagan Gera in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

That was the same with Cody . I think of the daylight that we shoot the scene , the intro to the final conflict between Cal and Dagan , which is really , in a mint of ways , Cody ’s scene , because it is Dagan self - obsessed with Tanalorr , motor the nails into Cal ’s heart and calling him a bankruptcy . When we fetch up that shot with Cody , there was just electricity in the way , because he had felt and canalise so implausibly this tactile sensation of being able-bodied to look at a Jedi who is lost and confused and say , " You ’re a failure , and you ’re no Jedi to me . " That ’s something that really comes from collaboration .

Pete Stewart : I remember the very beginning , we had our first concluding mesa read , so everyone will record through the book , and we hear the shocks , and the cries , and the delight and the cataclysm of everyone figuring out what ’s happening for the first fourth dimension . But then , immediately after that , we did a roundtable where all the actors ride , and then Tom Keegan , the performance director , would sit and dig in . All of the actors sat there , and dug into the roles and really started to , for quite a farseeing clock time , we would pose there and dissect what they intend the script was sound out to them , what the characters were enunciate to them . I recollect that was so valuable , because then everyone allow for discernment more than just words on a Sir Frederick Handley Page , and the import behind it and what the characters were going through . You see that in the operation , it really pay dividend .

It sounds like another rich collaborative experience for you both . Now , we ’ve mouth a band about that terminal face-off between Cal and Dagan , where he ’s calling him a loser . If Dagan had not been so obsess with Tanalorr , do you think he really could have had something of a saving arc within this existence , whether it be in this game or in a follow - up ?

Dagan pleading to Santari in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Danny Homan : I do n’t know about a saving arc , because I suppose it feel like at this point , Dagan , even if he were to fight the Empire , would be fueled by his own ambitions and for his own purpose . I think he ’s too far there . But so much of the report of Survivor is Cal conform to potential ally who he could really become brothers with , first Dagan , then , of course , with Bode , and kind of the calamity of both those fiber is the potential drop that has been wasted by their drop to the dark side . I think that ’s so instructive for Cal , this mind that he ’s seek out ally in this impossible fight , and on a few occasions , he ’s confronting the reality that man are delicate , and the dark side is something that draws people , so there ’s fights on galactic levels , and also just on a personal level .

Pete Stewart : So many of the relationship we ramble Cal against in Survivor are knock off the root of duty and desire . So , for me , at least , I could n’t see a path to Dagan being deliver , because we needed to see this responsibility versus desire play out to extremes . So , it ’s to see Dagan choosing desire , and that eat up him , and destroying him . Or , as we see , the same matter with Bode , who chooses duty as a father , and that squander him and destroys him .

Cal needs to be in the middle of these thing , and feeling this pull in either focusing , so I remember the things that happened had to happen . I intend Dagan surviving perhaps cheapens — not cheapens it , it softens what Cal is going through , the vividness of it is softened a little turn , for me , at least . Even though , as I ’ve enjoin before , I love visualise happily ever afters for characters where they do n’t have to die , but that ’s just not the story we ’re tell . It ’s not the galaxy we ’re telling it in , correct ?

Dagan Gera watching Khri hologram in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Dagan die before really getting to go back to Tanalorr in the present storyline . Did you ever play with the idea of him really reaching the satellite and maybe having the final face-off with him there , or was it always he was never hypothesize to get there ?

Danny Homan : It ’s an interesting question , because there ’s something delectable about confronting Dagan at the moment where he ’s about to be quick to go to Tanalorr , and then Cal ’s confrontation with Bode later after Bode successfully arrived on Tanalorr . So , in some ways , Bode kind of continues that desire , so you get to see Cal confronts both Dagan before , then Bode afterwards . So , he kind of gets the full picture of Tanalorr as an object of desire that is kind of , as Pete was mentioning , represents this apple that is potentially venomous that can twist people and make them flow from grace .

Pete Stewart : Yeah , the final engagement with Dagan is also one of the last opportunities to cement Cal and Bode as the boys , the real friends , actual brothers and comrades in arms . Them working together to defeat Dagan really cements that moment , because we always had it in our head that the last fight was Bode on Tanalorr , and in a spate of ways , Dagon is the transparency that give Bode , amongst other things , cover . So , having the inheritor of his compulsion being Bode was always something that we find quite strongly about . And Bode being the inheritor of that legacy , and standing in the ruination of Tanalorr against Cal was a pretty strong throughline throughout the secret plan .

Upside down Cal and Dagan Gera final fight in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Well , I love the way it play out . Again , part of me would have be intimate to have visualise it , but at the same metre , as someone who was very anti - Dagan after his nefarious turn of events , I was like , " Yes ! No , you do n’t get it . "

Pete Stewart : [ Chuckles ] Yeah , there ’s something really large about that . It ’s something really tasty about the actual spoilt guy , the arch big guy , being denied what he require , it just feels beneficial .

We talk about the moral tug - of - war between responsibility and desire , and how it affects Cal . Cal has a trivial bit of a routine to the sour side as he chases down Bode . Was there ever a thought to introduce some of thosedark Force mightiness for Calduring Dagan ’s tenure in the narrative ?

Dagan Gera and wounded Cal in Star Wars Jedi Survivor

Danny Homan : I do n’t think so , and I believe the intellect why is Bode ’s perfidy run into Cal at a layer deeper than almost anything he ’s felt so far . That bother has to be so big , because Cal is border by have it away ones who are there to protect him and to guide him . He has that conversation with Merrin after leaving the tattered lunar month after the Rayvis confrontation , where Cal fink that he ’s worried he could go down Dagon ’s path , and Merrin says , " If you do , we ’ll be there to check that you rectify your course . "

But the Bode perfidy , I retrieve , suffer Cal the most because , again , you could imagine a future tense in which Cal and Bode successfully take on the Empire . They have a genuine brotherhood that I think Cal has been looking for a very long time , and so that betrayal hits him at a mysterious point than I think he ’s experienced before . And that is , regrettably , the thing that tipped the scale and makes him dip into to a path that he hoped he would never take .

Pete Stewart : Yeah , I would n’t say he ’s on a tongue edge , but I opine he ’s wobbling along , pushing down any thoughts that he has , but they do up now . And then , he gravel raging , and he ’s hitch in choice that do n’t have ending that he loves . Like when he beat Rayvis and Rayvis exact that he kills him , Cal ’s like , " I do n’t really want to , but you ’re never going to stop . " These sorts of dilemmas he gets put into , but he fall out of it as much as potential with his ethics intact .

But then , like Danny says , Bode ’s [ betrayal unlocks ] a primal rage . You imagine you ’ve really got someone that you love , and that ’s taken , that ’s the affair that Dagon did n’t have . I do n’t reckon Cal ever saw Dagon and visualize — like , at the rootage , he ’s was like , " We could fight the Empire together . " But then that ’s it after that . It ’s like , " Oh , you ’re a tragedy , but also , you ’re in my way , and you ’ll do terrible things if I do n’t stop you . " Whereas Bode , maybe he wo n’t do terrible thing if Cal does n’t stop over him , but he has done terrible things like to Cere and co. , and it ’s just right in the substance .

I ’d love to actually hear how convoluted you guys were with the overall atm of the first Dagan scene , because one matter I love about the flashbacks in that succession , and then even his first bewilder out of the bacta tank , is the firing , the delivery of his line of credit , all finger like they nicely keep that villain work up until the very last arcsecond when , like we were talking earlier , he shed blood the crystal . How much of that was your hombre ' affaire ? How much of that was the actual commission and voice capture ?

Danny Homan : It ’s really everything . I think it ’s deserving mentioning our cinematic music director , Dori Arazi , who previously worked on God of War , who is an expert at his craftsmanship , and really talented at tone , and kind of shifting the various moods of that scene . It ’s a unmanageable , delicate scene , right ? There ’s a lot work on there , there ’s a minute of hope , and then it cascades into reverence , and it ’s something that really takes , as you mentioned , [ perfect ] sound purpose , it ’s dismount , it ’s cinematography , and it ’s writing kind of all coming together .

Now that the mainlineStar Warsfranchise is looking toexplore the High Republicwith things likeThe Acolyte , how involved are things likeJedi : Survivorin help flesh out some of the main canyon for this universe ?

Danny Homan : It ’s a unmanageable inquiry to answer . I retrieve the news report of our involvement in the High Republic was one of shape with Lucasfilm , and a mass of collaboration of worldbuilding together . I think from our perspective , the buff reaction to the High Republic was something that I think surprised me a little bit , because it just seemed like mass were so fascinated with it , and these are really interesting part of Star Wars history that I did n’t really bang much about , prior to this undertaking .

But I consider it speaks to the collaboration , and a caboodle of the details we were able to put in there — Pete mentioned them originally — there ’s wonderful echo and scan and databank entries that sort of give some interesting contours to the High Republic , as we do it it , on Koboh , which is a site of disaster and tragedy . So , for our involvement in fleshing out parting of the High Republic , it was a really coolheaded opportunity to get to show both the rise and the evenfall of this part of the High Republic .

Pete Stewart : Yeah , there was a real pleasure that I ascertain when I was image , " What if the replication and scan in the meditation chambers , Khri ’s meditation chambers , are all trying to create a slice of life . " When you put them all together , you may see , " Oh , this person met this person for a secret rendezvous in a different part of the planet , " and then these two masters are spill about this pattern that you see somewhere else , and just building this tableau of what life was like .

And like archaeologists dusting away ruins , that was really rewarding , and working with Lucasfilm on that , again , was really rewarding because it did n’t feel like there was any huge limiters or guardrails to how we wanted to separate it . As to the impact on the wider public canon , I ca n’t really say , but what I did mark today or yesterday , the High Republic primer , or art book or something , is out and Dagan and Santari are in it , and that ’s really rewarding . It feel really cool to see that the work that we did is being represented in a larger sort of world .

Danny Homan : As secret plan developer , we not only write , but we work up story and worldbuild with all the other disciplines at our studio . I opine part of why we see games amount into hump , or having a little more oculus on them , is that we build the levels , we fulfill every nook and cranny with interesting storytelling , and character , and tone , and if that revolutionise other people , that ’s great . What an honor .

For my final query , give how much talks there is , and how many secrets and databanks are shroud in this secret plan , how large did the hand for this turn out to be ?

Danny Homan : It ’s hard to say . We have cinematics , we have gameplay book , we ’ve catch barks , we ’ve get 100 and hundreds of Thomas Nelson Page of our cantina content . One affair that we thought a lot about on our squad is , particularly with the story we ’re tell — which is a hard narration , this is a difficult story in Star Wars canon , it ’s a news report of treachery and loss . We spent a lot of cause making sure that players , even after the acknowledgment rolled , could go back and talk to characters , and live Bode ’s perspective on his journey .

Games are a marathon , they ’re a multi - year development process , which takes a lot of time and energy for us as devs . But we cognise that our community of interests has such an emotional investment in our grapheme , in our worlds , so for us , it ’s worth that attempt , so that , on the tail end , when the game comes out , we can see players talking to characters after the credits have roam , and regain every echo , or every CAT scan . It ’s really rewarding to see how much love it seems like players fall on to with Jedi : Survivor .

Pete Stewart : I do n’t get it on an accurate number , although I do remember towards the end of the project , us clocking in , and it was like over half a million words . Probably way more than that in our database , but I do remember the hand papers we had for the cantina creak due to its size , so that ’s a testament to the amount of content that we created both for decisive and side content .

AboutStar Wars Jedi: Survivor

The taradiddle of Cal Kestis stay in Star Wars Jedi : Survivor , a third person extragalactic nebula - sweep action - adventure game from Respawn Entertainment , developed in collaboration with Lucasfilm Games . This narratively - driven , single instrumentalist claim picks up five year after the events of Star Wars Jedi : fall Order and follows Cal ’s increasingly desperate conflict as the galaxy come further into darkness . crusade to the edge of the galaxy by the Empire , Cal will find himself beleaguer by threats fresh and familiar . As one of the last live on Jedi Knights , Cal is driven to make a stand during the galaxy ’s gloomy times - but how far is he willing to go to protect himself , his bunch , and the bequest of the Jedi Order ?

Star Wars Jedi : Survivoris available to buy on PlayStation 5 , Windows , and Xbox Series X / S , with Xbox One and PlayStation 4 ports presently in development .